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Ok folks..
Scarborough Town Centre has the liz armybook for show/preview.
So here is some comfirmations/corrections:
There is an entire half page devoted to mixed units for us, as it states lizardmen are the main army that has a prevelance of this. It says when dealing with a mixed unit, count the spots taken up by the 'larger models/whatever term it used', asif they were the normal ranked models...so yes, krox and slann still count as full ranks.
* Saurus are 11 pts, not 10
* temple guard are 16, not 15
* saurus cav are the same as current, not cheaper
* it appears Tetto'eko CAN join units of temple guard OR skinks...the wording allows this as it says MAY join skinks instead of temple guard (this is big for me since i plan to buy 4 boxes of temple guard...20 for slann, 20 for tetto'eko whenever i may use him)
* I won't put the pt cost here, but TikTaqTo is VERY expensive...he is over 300 pts, just like Chakax..
* Yes, TikTaqto has a special rule that he CAN join terradon units as their 'squad leader' basically...heheh
* terradons still have hit & run but it's weaker now i think. it refers to a rule in the BRB called "feigned flieght or something' that is for fast cavalry. There may be some addendum to it but i didn't read the entire entry for it. I forgot to check about the rock thing
* salamanders work as follows: place the flame template at their mouth in a direction you wish that you have line of sight. Then roll the artillery dice andmove it forward that many inches. One you find it's position, treat it as a breathe weapon basically.
* razordons DO get 2 art. dice when stand and shoot but 1 otherwise
* engine of the gods does reduce casting cost by 1...NOT 3.
* skinks in howdaw of a stegadon get a 3+ AS. If i saw it correctly, ancient steg grants 2+.
Some stuff that annoyed me...
As people here know, the fact that we don't have our own lore pissed me off too no end..but that aside as i have accepted that...
* the 2nd or 3rd page..has a beautiful full page artwork of a liz army going to battle..in the pic, is a skink priest guy riding...a COATL!!! I immediately flipped to the back to check, hoping maybe this was kept a secret for this long...Sadly NO...they have the damn pic in one of the main artworks of the book, and they have a large passage talking aboout Coatls...but alas, even though it be fun, fluffy, and makes sense, we don't get it... *sigh*
* the cold one rider art sucks...it follows the art from our cold ones, so they have those stupid looking heads and hands..rest of the art is quite good for the most part
* mazdamundi has a 4+ ward, but no ward for the stegadon.
* kroak has a 3+ ward..he still hass the -1 to hit, but he no longer turns magic weapons into mundane (DAMNIT!!! they really made him bite!) One good thing, his PD, get added to the free pool so anyone can use them.
* our item section bites.
Basically we have the same weapons as now, except that the blade of realities is 75 pts and can instant kill stuff if they fail a ld test (no saves, regen, etc are allowed)
Banners, i didn't get a good look as i had to leave due to the wife, but the skavenpelt banner is there (the one that was in the lustria book) but i forgot if its skink only. Overall, i did see the 100 pt banner (krygor one) but forgot to confirm what it does. may go back tomorrow to check Razz hehe
Overall, from what I do remember glancing over it..nothing hit me as stuff i'd really want to use, so don't expect the cool type of banners vampires, warriors, dark elves, and daemons got.
we only have 3 talismans (the same 3 as now, but aura of quetzl now sucks as it's not a 4+ ward...sorry, but -1 to hit won't save our oldbloods from the type of stuff that they would need a talisman for anyways).
* enchanted items....nothing really new that i remember...i saw the rod of storms (bound uranon's), jaguar charm (bound steed), forgot the rest...but again..our item section is a big let down.
The art of the skink priest on the coatl makes me want to sculpt a coatl now for a GD entry..so i will prob do that and hope that in 8E, we get more stuff as all armies deserve.
Sanjay
Scarborough Town Centre has the liz armybook for show/preview.
So here is some comfirmations/corrections:
There is an entire half page devoted to mixed units for us, as it states lizardmen are the main army that has a prevelance of this. It says when dealing with a mixed unit, count the spots taken up by the 'larger models/whatever term it used', asif they were the normal ranked models...so yes, krox and slann still count as full ranks.
* Saurus are 11 pts, not 10
* temple guard are 16, not 15
* saurus cav are the same as current, not cheaper
* it appears Tetto'eko CAN join units of temple guard OR skinks...the wording allows this as it says MAY join skinks instead of temple guard (this is big for me since i plan to buy 4 boxes of temple guard...20 for slann, 20 for tetto'eko whenever i may use him)
* I won't put the pt cost here, but TikTaqTo is VERY expensive...he is over 300 pts, just like Chakax..
* Yes, TikTaqto has a special rule that he CAN join terradon units as their 'squad leader' basically...heheh
* terradons still have hit & run but it's weaker now i think. it refers to a rule in the BRB called "feigned flieght or something' that is for fast cavalry. There may be some addendum to it but i didn't read the entire entry for it. I forgot to check about the rock thing
* salamanders work as follows: place the flame template at their mouth in a direction you wish that you have line of sight. Then roll the artillery dice andmove it forward that many inches. One you find it's position, treat it as a breathe weapon basically.
* razordons DO get 2 art. dice when stand and shoot but 1 otherwise
* engine of the gods does reduce casting cost by 1...NOT 3.
* skinks in howdaw of a stegadon get a 3+ AS. If i saw it correctly, ancient steg grants 2+.
Some stuff that annoyed me...
As people here know, the fact that we don't have our own lore pissed me off too no end..but that aside as i have accepted that...
* the 2nd or 3rd page..has a beautiful full page artwork of a liz army going to battle..in the pic, is a skink priest guy riding...a COATL!!! I immediately flipped to the back to check, hoping maybe this was kept a secret for this long...Sadly NO...they have the damn pic in one of the main artworks of the book, and they have a large passage talking aboout Coatls...but alas, even though it be fun, fluffy, and makes sense, we don't get it... *sigh*
* the cold one rider art sucks...it follows the art from our cold ones, so they have those stupid looking heads and hands..rest of the art is quite good for the most part
* mazdamundi has a 4+ ward, but no ward for the stegadon.
* kroak has a 3+ ward..he still hass the -1 to hit, but he no longer turns magic weapons into mundane (DAMNIT!!! they really made him bite!) One good thing, his PD, get added to the free pool so anyone can use them.
* our item section bites.
Basically we have the same weapons as now, except that the blade of realities is 75 pts and can instant kill stuff if they fail a ld test (no saves, regen, etc are allowed)
Banners, i didn't get a good look as i had to leave due to the wife, but the skavenpelt banner is there (the one that was in the lustria book) but i forgot if its skink only. Overall, i did see the 100 pt banner (krygor one) but forgot to confirm what it does. may go back tomorrow to check Razz hehe
Overall, from what I do remember glancing over it..nothing hit me as stuff i'd really want to use, so don't expect the cool type of banners vampires, warriors, dark elves, and daemons got.
we only have 3 talismans (the same 3 as now, but aura of quetzl now sucks as it's not a 4+ ward...sorry, but -1 to hit won't save our oldbloods from the type of stuff that they would need a talisman for anyways).
* enchanted items....nothing really new that i remember...i saw the rod of storms (bound uranon's), jaguar charm (bound steed), forgot the rest...but again..our item section is a big let down.
The art of the skink priest on the coatl makes me want to sculpt a coatl now for a GD entry..so i will prob do that and hope that in 8E, we get more stuff as all armies deserve.
Sanjay